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The Value Discussion
Some people are getting the wrong idea about Apple’s new Mac Pros–again feeling that Apple is throwing them a special curveball. Numerous posts on the Net suggest this. But it must be stated again that Apple’s use of dual GPU’s has its reasoning.
Why would Apple only make Mac Pros with two GPUs?
Not enough people are asking this question…and trust me there is a great answer.
Apple’s entry-level Mac Pro is at 2,999.USD. Out of that price, the dual D300’s may have value not less than 900.USD—2000.USD for the rest of the unit.
Apple’s mid-level Mac Pro starts at 3,999.USD. Out of that price the dual D500’s net yield 85 percent of the streaming processors, 69 percent of the teraflops, and 75 percent of the video memory of a FirePro W8000. Averaging these the D500 yields 76 percent of much of the value of the W8000, or 1,308.USD. Apple appears to be equipping users with about 1,800.USD of graphics value in the dual D500 configuration—2,199.USD for the rest of the unit.
We don’t have a price of a machine with access to the D700. But as we noted above it seems to be nearly identical in specs to the FirePro W9000, a three-thousand dollar GPU. If you configure the baseline machine and simply add that D700 to it the final price may be approximately 6,999.USD.
Our math doesn’t add up on this last guess. And that’s because we think Apple may scale value on the D700 quite a bit, essentially giving away the extra heaps of video ram. That would make the D700-equipped Mac Pros a “must-have” for the top-end performing pro users…and it would steal away dedicated Windows workstation users as well.
It’s just a guess…. 😉
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We have some additional comparison data for readers. We’ll pos that below. It will give readers a sense of power of the these D-series units compared to latest high-performing gaming cards which typically have been our best options for the old Mac Pros.
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This data comes via Wikipedia’s AMD GPU chart info:
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 (this is available for Mac)
— 2.8 teraflops
— 3 GB of video ram
— 384-bit memory bus width
— 240 GB/s memory bandwidth
— 1792 streaming processors (texture units)
It’s important to focus on streaming processor counts, speeds and teraflops for a sense of real-life performance, generalized.
Radeon R9 (Hawaii based architecture)
— 4.5 teraflops
— 4 GB of video ram
— 512-bit memory bus
— 320 GB/s memory bandwidth
— 2816 streaming processors (texture units)
Both the R9 and 7950 Radeons have 800 MHz core clocks. Interestingly, the D300, D500 and D700 if clocked equally to the FirePro W7000, 8000, and 9000 have core clocks at 950, 900 and 975 MHz, respectively.
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The Mac Pro: So what’s a D300, D500 and D700 anyway? We have answers | Architosh http://t.co/1nRess0gxz
We have some additional comparison data for readers. We’ll pos that below. It will give readers a sense of power of the these D-series units compared to latest high-performing gaming cards which typically have been our best options for the old Mac Pros.
A
This data comes via Wikipedia’s AMD GPU chart info:
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 (this is available for Mac)
— 2.8 teraflops
— 3 GB of video ram
— 384-bit memory bus width
— 240 GB/s memory bandwidth
— 1792 streaming processors (texture units)
It’s important to focus on streaming processor counts, speeds and teraflops for a sense of real-life performance, generalized.
Radeon R9 (Hawaii based architecture)
— 4.5 teraflops
— 4 GB of video ram
— 512-bit memory bus
— 320 GB/s memory bandwidth
— 2816 streaming processors (texture units)
Both the R9 and 7950 Radeons have 800 MHz core clocks. Interestingly, the D300, D500 and D700 if clocked equally to the FirePro W7000, 8000, and 9000 have core clocks at 950, 900 and 975 MHz, respectively.
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“it was created only for the new Mac Pros themselves.”
The base model GPUs in Mac Pro alone cost around $1200 on Amazon. Add Xeon E5s, PCIe SSDs, 12GB DDR. Not bad at all.
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CPUよりもGPUのコストのほうが高い The Mac Pro: So what’s a D300, D500 and D700 anyway? We have answers http://t.co/Qg3WHBQjU9 @architoshさんから
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Interesting reading for anyone who gives a rat’s ass about the new Mac Pro http://t.co/0qAwY66m14
@BlacklightJDR this is interesting/relevant. http://t.co/CAQe28zYVq
@BlacklightJDR this is interesting/relevant. http://t.co/CAQe28zYVq
@applespotlight A comparison of the new Mac Pro’s GPU’s and their standard counterparts: http://t.co/RfRCnRaYtm
@applespotlight A comparison of the new Mac Pro’s GPU’s and their standard counterparts: http://t.co/RfRCnRaYtm
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Cena nowego MacPro moze sie okazac calkiem atrakcyjna 😀 #macPro #apple #ati http://t.co/63qC89C3ML
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OpenCL in OS X will be responsible for tapping into the immense power of both GPUs. Realtime editing in 4K sounds unreal, this is quite the machine. I wish it had a Blu-Ray burner built in. I’ll have to go with this one from http://numac.co ,The NMBDR6x
OpenCL in OS X will be responsible for tapping into the immense power of both GPUs. Realtime editing in 4K sounds unreal, this is quite the machine. I wish it had a Blu-Ray burner built in. I’ll have to go with this one from http://numac.co ,The NMBDR6x
OpenCL in OS X will be responsible for tapping into the immense power of both GPUs. Realtime editing in 4K sounds unreal, this is quite the machine. I wish it had a Blu-Ray burner built in. I’ll have to go with this one from http://numac.co ,The NMBDR6x
Looking at the specs my guess would be the D700 is most likely a HD7970 or R280x (their the same card) with the name changed to Firepro so its worth more 😛
Looking at the specs my guess would be the D700 is most likely a HD7970 or R280x (their the same card) with the name changed to Firepro so its worth more 😛
[…] – the two D300 GPUs in the lower-priced Mac Pro are worth about US$1200 alone. The same source, architosh, a website aimed at creative professionals who run CAD and 3D software on Apple’s OS X […]
this is the best answers and look into the mac pro l ve been looking for .Now l need to figure pricing /performance on the rest of it .
this is the best answers and look into the mac pro l ve been looking for .Now l need to figure pricing /performance on the rest of it .
[…] the two D300 GPUs in the lower-priced Mac Pro are worth about $1,200 alone. The same source, architosh, a website aimed at creative professionals who run CAD and 3-D software on Apple’s OS X […]
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