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Architosh publishes Mac professional workstation survey results

Introduction

The Architosh Professional Workstation Survey study commenced in the fall of 2014, collecting survey data until the end of the year and conducting specific interviews with survey participants. This report is detailed and can be read in various ways. Readers may want to skip to our conclusions on the final page and then work back into the details. The charts and data on page 4 are “comparative” among industries and are most interesting (our favorite part of the report). Use this table of contents as a guide:

The goals of the survey center on understanding how well Apple’s Mac desktop computers (principally the iMac and Mac Pros) meet the needs of pro users in various CAD and 3D industries, from Architecture to Science and Medicine. From our collected data, interviews and research, this study makes five key conclusions.

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The following pages walk the reader through the survey data, issues and insights. A page is entirely devoted to sharing survey participant feedback, from both the comment box and from conducted interviews. Further information as to follow-up reports and related future features is provided.

Survey Results: Key Summary Data

Question 1: What professional industry do you work in?

The Architosh run Mac Professional Workstation survey was, not surprisingly, dominated by Architecture professionals, given the demographic at Architosh, which is nearly 50 percent architects. Nearly 65 percent of the more than 315 professionals who took the survey were architects. The next dominant group was 3D/Visualization and Film professionals at slightly over 13 percent. With such a lopsided participant turn-out, and with questionable minimal numbers in some industries, we provide key caveats in the course of the report herein. (see image 01: What professional industry do you work in?) 

01 – Architosh workstation survey results. Question 1. What professional industry do you work in?

02 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 2. How many employees are at your organization?

03 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 3. Which types of apps do you currently have on your desktop computer?

Question 2: How many employees are at your organization? 

In terms of organizational size, slightly more than 46 percent were 1-2 people sized organizations, meaning there were a lot of single practitioners. The second biggest group was small organizations of 3-19 individuals at just over 32 percent or nearly 1/3 of all survey takers. The remaining 21.16 percent were in organizations from 20-1000+ (see image 02: How many employees are at your organization?)

Question 3: Which types of apps do you currently have on your desktop computer?

The types of applications used roughly reflected the industry field breakdown from image 01 above. BIM applications led the group, followed by CAD and then 3D design applications. We used the term CAID (computer-aided industrial design) and it seems that many readers don’t understand or use that term in their product design field. As a result, it was the lowest catagory despite clear solid turn-out by product and industrial designers.

As a result, CAID industry professionals put their answer for apps into the 3D Design choice, MCAD & PLM choice and CAD choice. In the future we will group CAID with MCAD and PLM. (see image 03: Which types of apps do you currently have on your desktop computer? )

Getting Into Specifics

In this next section we dial in a bit more detail.

Question 4: Do any of your applications utilize GPU (graphics processing unit) hardware acceleration using OpenCL or Nvidia’s CUDA?

Remarkably, nearly 70 percent of participants said their tools benefit from either GPU hardware acceleration. However, in digging into this further, we have realized that many of Apple’s pro customers, perhaps more than one third, do not fully understand what GPU acceleration is via OpenCL or CUDA. (see image 04: Do any of your applications utilize GPU hardware acceleration using OpenCL or Nvidia’s CUDA? )

04 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 4. Do any of your applications utilize GPU hardware acceleration using OpenCL or Nvidia’s CUDA?

05 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 5. How important are the use of 4K displays to your work?

This especially seems to be the case in its Architecture market, based on our discussions with participants. We will analyze these results in a bit more detail later in the report. (see: Looking at Variances in Data by Industry, pg 3)

Question 5: How important are the use of 4K displays to your work? 

As much as Apple talks up 4K and 5K displays, the importance of such displays is a bit low from our survey results. However, this percent would likely be much higher if dedicated film industry professionals took our survey in greater numbers. We did find several 3D professionals had pipelines that somewhat ended with precise 4K display needs. (see image 05: How important are the use of 4K displays to your work? )

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Question 6: How many monitors (displays) do you use in your current workflow?

This was one of the most interesting questions and we were stunned with the results. Nearly 60 percent of all participants used two displays or more. Again, if film professionals had participated more in this survey the results would be even higher. For a survey which was dominated by architects, it was quite interesting to see so many participants using two displays. (see image 06: How many monitors (displays) do you use in your current workflow? )

The issue affects hardware makers and in particular the GPU makers, whether Apple integrates GPUs onto motherboards or uses discreet cards. We will dig deep into this issue later in the report.

Question 7: How long do you typically keep your pro hardware (cycle length) before you upgrade?

This is the question and issue that most interest the hardware makers—specifically Apple in this case. But not just Apple. Software vendors too realize that when professionals take on new hardware they often do so as a complete upgrade cycle with software included. Often, the adoption of new hardware drives operating system issues that both warrant and respond to software application upgrades.

06 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 6. How many monitors (displays) do you use in your current workflow?

07 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 7. How long do you typically keep your pro hardware before you upgrade?

In looking at the results globally, and being mindful of the strong turn-out by architects taking this survey, we can see that users keep their hardware, on average, longer than 3 years. (see image 07: How long do you keep your pro hardware before you upgrade? )

next page: Gauging the Ideal Mac Pro Desktop

Gauging the Ideal Mac pro Desktop

In this next section of the Architosh Workstation Survey study we asked questions that were aimed at gauging what workstation pros desire in their future Mac. In particular we wanted to know the following:

  1. How many GPUs should Apple ideally target for pro users? (range?)
  2. What kind of product mix should Apple provide in GPU offerings?
  3. How many CPU cores should Apple ideally target for pro users?
  4. How important is the ability to upgrade a GPU card?
  5. What IO ports are most important to pro users?

While we provide a detailed summary of recommendations at the end of this report (page 5), we will provide a general analysis for these next questions here below.

Question 8: What is your ideal preference for GPU configuration in your pro desktop?

In short, on the GPU matter, Apple’s pro customers are scattered across the board in terms of what type and number of GPUs they desire for their next ideal Mac pro desktop. Take a look at (image 08) and you will see a wide diversity. If anything, it shows that Apple really has responded well to the real needs of the Mac professional user with their latest new Mac Pro (nMP) in particular. (see image 08: What is your ideal preference for GPU configuration in your pro desktop?)

08 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 8. What is your ideal preference for GPU configuration in your pro desktop?

Dual GPU systems slightly out-paced single GPU systems, with dual high-end GPUs desired the most at just under 26 percent of all participants (1 in 4). The next highest favored choice was a single high-end GPU based system, at 17.56 percent. Not surprising, nobody really wants low end GPU systems in any configuration and folks don’t want ultra high-end GPUs in single configurations either.

This means when Apple offers Nvidia’s high-end Quadra boards, users who are interested in such ultra high-end cards tend to want more than one. In fact, slightly more than 10 percent of participants would like a dual, ultra high-end GPU configuration. And 8 percent would like a triple configured option of the same calibre. To put that in perspective, 1 in 5 participants want ultra high-end GPU cards (the very top of the line GPUs) for their Mac professional desktops.

The results of the GPU study data gets a bit more interesting when we look at it by industry. We examine this on the page 4 in much more detail (and the chart is quite cool to review as well).

Question 9: How many processor cores are in your ideal pro desktop? (e.g.: cores in CPUs help you tackle many tasks at once and particularly multi-threaded applications like rendering and visual effects run best when given many cores.)

On the matter of CPU cores we found an interesting array of answers and excellent feedback on the issue. For a survey whose participants were dominantly in the architecture market, we were curious about the high percentage of users who wanted 8-12 cores in their future pro desktop Mac. This resultant, coupled with our interviews, has led us to believe that the architecture market is mis-informed on the matter of ideal CPU configurations. We’ll discuss this further in the report. (see image 09 below: How many processor cores are in your ideal pro desktop?)

09 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 09. How many processor cores are in your ideal pro desktop?

10 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 10. How important is the ability to upgrade your GPU(s) in your ideal pro desktop?

When it comes to Mac pros and their professional desktop computer, nearly a third (29.06 percent) would prefer an 8-core system. Another quarter of them would prefer a 12 core system (24.91 percent). And believe it or not, 15.47 percent of participants would like a 32 core system. In fact, several participants complained that the new Mac Pro isn’t a dual processor system providing up to 32 cores or more. The current new Mac Pro is a single CPU system with 12 cores max, leaving the 23 percent of participants unsatisfied.

With a diversity of participants in markets such as architecture, engineering, film and VFX, product design, engineering, science and medicine, clearly one would expect to see this diversity of needs. Apple offers a spectrum of possible options for users, from 4-6 core iMacs to 6-12 core Mac Pros. But tapping out at 12 cores maximum is leaving many Mac pro users unhappy.

Again, we’ll dig into industry related differences at the latter half of this report.

Question 10: How important is the ability to upgrade your GPU(s) in your ideal pro desktop?

While the new Mac Pro has been well received, one initial stunning complaint was the inability to upgrade the GPU cards in it. As can be seen from chart above, 32.71 percent say upgrading the GPU is important. Another nearly 10 percent said it is mandatory. The remaining participants can likely deal with the inability to upgrade the GPU, whether that be inside a Mac Pro or iMac configured for pro desktop needs. (see image 10 above: How important is the ability to upgrade your GPU(s) in your ideal pro desktop?)

Question 11: Select all the IO ports that are mission critical to your present and future workflow needs. 

When looking at IO concerns for Mac pros, as one might expect Mac professionals need a wide range of options. At the top of the heap was the need for USB 3, while two gigabit ethernet ports was required by 1 out of 4 participants. (see image 11: Select all the iO ports that are mission critical to your present and future workflow needs.)

11 – Architosh workstation survey. Survey question 11. Select all IO ports that are mission critical to your present and future workflow needs.

Thunderbolt 2 is required by half of all participants, which bodes well for this standard championed by Apple. Alas, Firewire 2 is still an important and forward looking necessity for more than a third of pro users on Mac, largely stemming from investments in storage, film industry equipment and other external devices.

Reviewing Questions

It is clear from the data that Apple should be delivering a wide spectrum of GPU configuration options for its pro users. The data supports Apple’s decision to ship all Mac Pros with dual GPU cards. What’s missing is that some users, who find the iMac ideal for their needs, would also benefit from a dual GPU configuration—something not offered by Apple. (On the next page we review iMac versus Mac Pro data in detail)

With regard to CPU cores, a surprising number of participants want more cores. Yet, many of these users are not aware that a high-percentage of their primary tools today are not taking advantage of all these cores. Perhaps, these users are being future-oriented, but in our interviews what was revealed more was a lack of knowledge. On the flip side, many tools do use every single core available (rendering, image processing and science software in particular) to the fullest extent. For many users, Apple is not meeting their needs.

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Many interviewers attested that their belief in the need to be able to upgrade their GPU is often not backed up by their history of actually doing so. On the other hand, a third of all participants use their machines for three years before replacement, while another 1/4 each replaces on the 4th and 5th year, respectively. That means that half of all participants keep their machines long enough where a GPU upgrade would give their computers a good boost midway through their life span.

Finally, Apple pros want access to a ton of ports. Apple has been a consistent provider of numerous IO options for years and also a leading driver of newer IO technology.

In the next section we examine the iMac versus the Mac Pro for pro desktop needs across our demanding pro industries.

next page: Looking at iMac versus Mac Pro for pro desktop workflows

Looking at iMac versus Mac Pro for pro desktop workflows

The last part of our survey was aimed at getting participants to tell us why they feel the iMac or the Mac Pro are not entirely meeting their needs. “What’s missing?” in other words. If any of the current models are actually meeting their ideal needs, then the participants were asked to select a choice labeled Skip Question (and then move on to the next question).

For the iMac question nearly 30 percent said the current iMac is meeting their professional desktop workflow needs. Hence, 60 percent had something to say about how to improve the iMac.

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For the Mac Pro question 62 percent said the machine currently meets their professional desktop workflow needs. Just less than 30 percent had some critical comments to make about the new Mac Pro. What this tells us broadly is that the new Mac Pro is more “ideal” for the pro user’s needs than the iMac, yet the iMac has grown greatly in popularity for some Mac professionals in fields such as Architecture.

Question 12: If your software needs can run natively on Mac OS X, what current version of Apple’s Macs best serve your current professional workflow needs?

Just under 3 out of 10 (28.4 percent) said the iMac best serves their needs. While nearly 6 out of 10 (57.2 percent) said the Mac Pro best served their needs. Not surprisingly, 14.4 percent of users said neither desktop systems best served their needs because a Mac Mobile computer was best suited for their workflow. (see image 12: If your software needs can run natively on Mac OS X, what current version of Apple’s Macs best serve your current professional workflow needs?)

Given the very high percentage of participants in the Architecture market, a market that has taken to the iMac in large numbers in the past few years, we found these results telling. There is a set of schisms in particular on the Architecture side. It goes like this.

12 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 12: If your software needs can run natively on Mac OS X, what current version of Apple’s Macs best serve your current professional workflow needs?

Architects have grown uncomfortable with the high cost of a Mac Pro in order to obtain the higher performance they deem warrant for the price range. Yet, part of the problem is they can’t get the performance out of a Mac Pro they want because so much of their common workflows are dominated by single-threaded oriented software.

Architects who do their conceptual design using say, SketchUp, will not see a terribly big improvement with a Mac Pro over an iMac system. Likewise, even BOXX, the dedicated workstation maker aimed at the same pro markets as this survey, make wise note of the optimal Revit workstation being a single, high frequency Intel i7 processor—like the one used in the latest new iMac. And the BIM program that makes the most use of multi-threading and multi-cores is Graphisoft’s ArchiCAD and that system too does not benefit much beyond 4-6 cores.

Yet recall the desire for 8-12 cores as being prevalent in the data. A lot of users desire more cores than their actual software makes good use of. While Apple may be aware of this, at the same time Apple seems to be underestimating the legitimate users who actually can tap out 32 cores.

Another schism is that many architects are using Mac Pros or want the new Mac Pro. Yet that system, for its cost, is only well suited for the type of architect who is doing a lot of rendering work as part of their weekly workflows.

The mobile systems preference is likely go to grow as “mobility” itself grows in enterprise workflows in general.

Looking at iMac: Where is it Weak?

Question 13: If the iMac series does not presently meet your “ideal” pro desktop needs what are the primary reasons? 

The top reason cited at 35.32 percent was that the CPU is not powerful enough. Clearly this answer does not apply to the standard BIM user in architectural practice, nor the 2D CAD user. The next top reason (34.89 percent) was that the GPU is not powerful enough. And in third place was the issue that the GPU cannot be upgraded in the iMac. (30.21 percent). (see image 13: If the iMac series does not presently meet your “ideal” pro desktop needs what are the primary reasons?)

13 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 13: If the iMac series does not presently meet your “ideal” pro desktop needs what are the primary reasons?

To summarize, of the nearly 6 out of 10 users who feel that the iMac is not suitable for them, the primary reasons are centered around lack of power and not being able to upgrade that power in the GPU. The fourth reason, by the way, is that the user needs multiple CPUs (or implied more CPU cores).

Only 10 percent said the iMac lacks their IO requirements. And only 18 percent said it was because the screen is integrated. Users can add displays to iMac scenarios. Importantly, 17.45 percent said they need multiple GPUs. Again, that is about power.

A few final comments about the iMac data. There were more than a handful of comments about how the iMac has become a more reasonable power per dollar pro desktop for users. The lion’s share of these comments were from Architecture market participants, or from those not in 3D, visual effects (VFX) and film markets. We will study this chart in more detail relative to markets later in the report.

Looking at the new Mac Pro: Where is it Weak?

Question 14: If the Mac Pro series does not presently meet your “ideal” pro desktop needs what are the primary reasons? 

On the matter of the Mac Pro 6 out of 10 users felt the present series meets their ideal professional desktop needs. However, for approximately 30 percent of participants, the following criticism was most important. 18.3 percent said the Mac Pro does not meet their GPU requirements (centered on lack of CUDA support). This was followed by 15.18 percent who said the GPU units are not able to be upgraded. And finally, 13.39 percent said the Mac Pro does not meet their CPU requirements. Explanations for these choices were: (see image 14 below: If the Mac Pro series does not presently meet your “ideal” pro desktop needs what are your primary reasons?)

In terms of IO only 5.36 percent said it did not meet their requirements. And in terms of memory, only 3 percent said it lacked the memory capacity it needs. Interestingly, just 10.71 percent said the Mac Pro did not meet their internal storage requirements, a surprise given some initial ramblings on the Net about that issue.

14 – Architosh workstation survey. Question 14: If the Mac Pro series does not presently meet your “ideal” pro desktop what are the primary reasons?

The new Mac Pro supports 64 GB of memory at 60GB/s. It’s total internal storage capacity is just 1 terabyte but it uses PCIe Flash storage which is more than twice as fast as SATA flash drives and 10x faster than a normal SATA hard drive.

If you recall the IO chart, users desire and need Thunderbolt 2 (more than 50 percent), so the use of external storage is likely the high driver of this requirement, relieving the new Mac Pro of having to have so much internal storage capacity.

Question 15: What is the brand of your current desktop computer for professional needs?

Finally, in our last question we asked what users were currently using for a desktop computer for professional workflow needs. Not surprisingly, 88.89 percent were using Apple Macs. This followed by nearly 5 percent using Dell computers, HP at 3.29 percent, Boxx at 2.06 percent and IBM-Lenovo at just under 1 percent.

next page: Looking at Variances in Data by Industry

Looking at Variances in Data by Industry

6 out of 10 participants were in the Architecture market. As an industry, architectural users have a large set of core common workflows built around a relatively limited set of dominant applications.

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This is quite different than say, the 3D industry where there are many more applications and much more diversity of workflow scenarios. We wanted to evaluate any key differences. Here is what we found.

Use of GPU hardware acceleration using OpenCL or CUDA

These results reflected comments and interview data and our own knowledge of the software in the market. While we believe the Product Design and 3D/VFX and Film professional understands GPU hardware acceleration better than the Architectural professional based on incorrect information communicated in interviews and comments.

Number of monitors used

Use of iMacs – Integrated Monitors

The overall data in the survey is likely too small to draw any reasonably accurate conclusions about the numbers of monitors used by industry, other than to discuss the Architecture and 3D/VFX/Film pros. (see image 15 below)

15 – Architosh workstation survey report. Number of monitors per industry.

The one group that we truly have enough data on (Architecture) can be analyzed with a higher degree of confidence. We would expect the Architecture market to be utilizing the iMac quite extensively.

With Industrial and Product Designers using many more monitors it makes sense that the iMac use would drop dramatically. Same is true for 3D/VFX/Film pros.

How long do you keep your hardware

From the data Architects keep their machines on average 3.4 years, very close to other data we have collected here at Architosh over the years. For 3D/VFX/Film pros the data is similar at 3.3 years. For Industrial/Product Designers the data is 4 years. However, we have an inadequate number of participants in the survey from that market to feel confident about that figure.

Ideal GPU Configuration per Industry

As you can see from the data in the graph shown, the dark brown is the preference for dual, high-end GPUs while the apple green color is for triple, high-end GPUs. In comparing the two professional market areas below, architects, by and large, need less powerful GPU configurations. (see image 16)

16 – Architosh workstation survey. GPU preferences by industry.

Other than Industrial/Product Design, the other markets don’t have enough data in the survey for us to feel good about generalizing them. Industrial and Product Designers who use more MCAD and PLM tools seem to be able to get by with a single, high-end GPU (orange in chart), but so to do many architects. They also get by even more with a single, mid-range GPU (turquoise color).

Ideal CPU Configuration per Industry

An 8-core Mac is the most popular choice among the entire survey, as noted earlier. However, there is some real variance among industries, as can be seen in the image below. (see image 17) What stands out in the chart is the Construction professional and the 3D/Film professional. They are nearly opposite in nature, and understandably so.

17 – Architosh workstation survey, number of CPU cores per industry.

3D/VFX/Film pros are the most demanding of their systems and desire maximum CPU power. Half of all such pros wish for 24-32 cores, which Apple does not provide in any of its systems, including the new Mac Pro which taps out at a 12 core single Xeon. The number one complaint among 3D pros who said the Mac Pro did not meet their needs was lack of a dual Xeon model (insufficient CPU cores).

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Many professionals in Engineering, Science and Medicine desire dual Xeon Mac Pros in order to reach at least 24 processing cores.

next page: Participant Feedback and Architosh Conclusion

Participant Feedback and Architosh Conclusions

Survey participants offered tremendous feedback beyond just the interview participants—far too much to share here in this report. However, we want to provide a sampling of some of the excellent feedback. Architosh will be publishing a separate, more in-depth, PDF version of this study and will be sending it out to all those who took the study and provided us an email address. We will also provide a way for those who read Architosh, who don’t fall into that group, to obtain the PDF report as well.

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Additionally, we will publish further related, analysis information on this study on Architosh in the weeks ahead. The following comments are a sampling of the feedback and are organized into some popular survey themes.

The iMac is Great for Architecture Pros

Architect Eric Batte, AIA, wrote:

“I’m a beta tester site for Graphisoft (ArchiCAD) and consulted with them directly prior to purchasing our first Macs. Previously we ran Windows on PCs until 2010. Since ArchiCAD is our primary software this was the driving force in our hardware selection. ArchiCAD makes more use of the CPU and the hard drive during processing and so and advanced, workstation grade graphics card is of little benefit. Therefore, we opted for quad-core processors and SSDs since switching to iMacs for the standard workstation.”

“Additionally, we appreciate that they are silent, have great wireless keyboards and mice. We enjoy the Magic Mouse touch surface as well as a general interface even though it doesn’t offer many advantages in ArchiCAD directly. The monitor size and general appearance is also fantastic.”

This author asked Eric Batte what it would take for his firm to adopt the new Mac Pro instead. His response follows:

“For the price-to-performace the iMac is a great choice. Currently, I think the Mac Pro plus a Thunderbolt monitor would practically double our cost and we would not realize a tremendous productivity gain in exchange for the additional money spent. So, although the Mac Pro is a great piece of hardware I think it would ultimately be a price drop OR a software driven requirement for us to prefer the Mac Pro.”

Interestingly, prior to the introduction of the iMac Retina (latest iMac) this author asked Eric what would could constitute an iMac Pro. He felt an even larger screen or a Retina display. He confessed concern about access to a GPU component for example or any such complexity as it would raise the price and not provide immediate benefit for their ArchiCAD BIM workflow.

Jeff Bushman, an architect with BDArchitects also spoke favorably about the iMac for his architecture firm. When asked why they choose iMacs his reply centered on ease of management, performance and price range:

We buy iMacs and run them into the ground – getting three years of useful life out of them. We like the consolidated design because fewer parts and connections to worry about – and we don’t run them so awful hard that we’re constantly upgrading CPU’s for example, which would argue for a separate monitor.

We know they aren’t the fastest, but they are certainly good enough for us.

Historically we have conditioned ourselves to spend in the $3,000 range for a new iMac, with maximum ram, the fastest processor, and maybe a faster drive. Hitting this metric gets easier with each passing year.

Entry-level MacPro is I think $3k without monitor and accessories so easily $4k before done. It’s a sweet machine, though!

While the iMac may be great for Architecture pros it isn’t for all of them. When it doesn’t fit them the primary reasons tend to be practical considerations that affect their workflow. Common examples are architects who have a developed rendering pipeline and investment in software that benefits from many CPU or GPU cores or dual GPU cards.

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Regardless, many are opting to use the iMac in Architecture and a lot of it is about price. The Mac Pro’s extra grand, once a monitor is thrown in, must justify itself and one way it can is with software workflows that include rendering times, which can be shorter with 6-core Xeons and programs that benefit from the more powerful GPUs and dual GPUs.

Cost Sensitive Considerations in Architecture: Mac versus PC

In the survey we ran across several interviews and comments that made mention of the perceived cost differentials of Macs versus PCs. Some favoring PCs may argue that in the Windows world that gap that exists between the iMacs and Mac Pros doesn’t even exist. On some level this is true. In the PC world an architect can configure a BOXX unit for Revit for example and benefit from the fast i7 processor but also be kitted out with dual GPU cards—something that is not a possible scenario for the Mac Pro or iMac.

Because this is really an issue for some, we have decided to study this gap issue more closely. Others don’t feel that the issue holds weight due to the fact that Macs are actually, in their minds, cheaper to own long term.

Architect Steven Janeway of Poiesis Architecture put it this way:

The Mac’s tend to be percieved as having a higher price tag, but I find that a dubious perception resultant of the PC world’s sales strategy, because whenever we try to build a PC to meet the Mac’s specs to achieve similar performance characteristics, the PC tends to be as much or more expensive than the Mac!!  Also the Mac’s tend to have a longer half-life than the PC’s just because they are higher performing and hand-down over an much extended period of time.  We also tend to own Mac’s and lease PC’s for this very reason because its an economic benefit.  

Steven’s comments are not unique among those in the know. They certainly deserve to be explored in more concrete detail and perhaps that is something Architosh can set about doing in the near future. We’ll end this topic with another quote along these lines, this time by scientists Nicola Losito of Italy:

The quality and performance of Mac allows us to have such a 5 year cycle which speaks in favor since we have limited resources for renewal of hardware. Of course for clients the life-span is longer, in administration office we have iMacs running since 2009 and in the so-called “wet” lab we have some PowerMacs pre-2001 running with dedicated lab tools.

New Mac Pro – Views

We received a lot of views on the new Mac Pro, especially in the Comments box in the survey itself. While the comments are mixed, some of the sharper criticisms are similar to a Viewpoint by Akiko Ashley we published not too long ago.

MORE: Viewpoint: Mac Pro, What Does Apple Mean by Pro? A View from a Professional in 3D, Animation, VFX and Video Games

Of course, pro users are still wanting to get one. And from our numbers in the report, 6 out of 10 participants said the Mac Pro meets their ideal pro desktop needs…needs similar to 3D artists Jeffrey Tomaka, in New York City. He writes:

“I do plan on purchasing a new Mac Pro next year sometime after the next iteration. I don’t approve of the fixed GPU option but I will order the dual AMD Fire cards with 6GB each for longevity. Also, because of the compact size of the new Mac Pro, I can keep my old 3,1 workstation long enough to see what develops next.”

Jeffrey uses Ashlar Cobalt 8, Autodessys formZ 8, and Autodesk Maya 2014 in a workflow that runs on his aging Mac Pro 3,1 machine with a BOXX RenderPRO for finish rendering that sits on top of the old Mac Pro. He writes:

“I prefer a dual CPU option in order to make test rendering setup much more efficient and to have the ability to add another workstation to the mini render farm when not in use.”

“I use Nvidia Mental Ray (Maya) for all finished rendering.  I don’t know what the maximum number of cores Mental Ray is limited to, but it always uses the 16 available in the BOXX RenderPRO.  I associate more CPU cores with faster rendering times.”

Mr. Tomaka’s input in the survey is invaluable because it exposes the strengths and weaknesses of Apple’s gear.

The following quotes are from survey input comment fields, associated with many participants. They all touch on the Mac Pro on some level.

“6 core very high frequency is the ideal CPU for my mixed CAD and 3D viz apps.” 

While we made the comment that there is a lack of understanding among many of the participants in the Architecture market (due to their interest in 8-12 core CPUs) some of them are very aware of all the technical issues.

“Software for architectural professions, AutoCAD, Vectorworks, need to be upgraded to take advantage of the multiple cores and GPU’s in the Mac Pro to make that computer worth the money. Otherwise, the iMac is actually faster because of it’s faster single CPU.”

And from another reader with a deft understanding of the facts:

“The computers are better than the software and IO devices right now…those are where the major speed bottlenecks are happening.”

Indeed, if folks reading our reviews over the past few years may recall, many updates are just now adding the multithreading to various software components to make their programs run much faster. Or they have just bumped up to full 64-bit throughout the app.

“The ‘solid state’ Mac Pro is a nice change, but it’s also a huge step backwards. A desk covered with cables and external drives .. why?”

And…

“The price of the current MacPro is a little steep. But I do like the compacted size. If I was to only require a desktop then the Mac Pro would be what I would want to have.”

And…

“The Mac’s are typically more high performing straight out the box than all the customization we have done to regular PC’s. And the cost (the usual rap on Apple) is negligible once you compare a customized truly comparable PC to the Mac. The new Black Mac Pro’s look very promising for performance at any cost. The Mac laptops run circles around any PC version we have ever had regardless of brand.”

And…

“Apple needs to approach pro users differently than consumers if they expect to retain loyalty. One size does not fit all. As a designer, I appreciate the new look and compact form factor of the new MacPro, but not at the expense of power and expandability. Can a computer truly be considered “Professional” without a dual cpu option? A pro user will gladly sacrifice a little space (larger footprint) for more power options. With the release of the latest Mac Pro, I am now forced to consider migrating to Windows exclusively. I would prefer not to switch, but Apple is making it a clearer choice.”

Dreams and Something for Apple to Think About

Typical of such surveys with an open comment box, we got a lot of interesting stuff sent in. Some of it quite good and worth mentioning.

“A Bootcamp type of solution (no software emulation) that allows fast switching.”

This author has often thought about such a thing. It would be the cat’s meow! Another participant said this:

“Apple should design its own high-end processors!”

If so, the company would need a basis for a design with a license. Today Apple has that with ARM, and the A-series chips in the iOS devices are Apple’s unique chip designs. However, ARM chips, though remarkably powerful for their energy output, are not as powerful as Intel iron at desktop wattages.

“We desperately need parametric modeling like SolidWorks on the Mac desktop!!!!”

We had something to say about this recently on Architosh.

“It would be great to have a PRO line of iMacs!”

This has been a thought here on Architosh before. The question is, what would constitute such a machine as deserving the “Pro” moniker. Perhaps it should be iMac Plus? Or is it just the new iMac Retina?

Architosh Conclusions

From the data and the extensive comments and interviews conducted during the fall and early winter of 2014, we want to offer readers a series of key conclusions. We also want to make sure readers understand that a more in-depth PDF version of this report will be available in the weeks ahead. That fuller version will include nearly all the interview data, plus more comments and a deeper analysis. We will announce the availability date soon.

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Importantly, Architosh wants to explore the topic of what constitutes the “pro” desktop for these markets. A future feature will explore ideas around future Mac computer series that adapt the current lines in such a way as to close the few but critical gaps we and participants see in the lineup. These gaps are marked by a “less-than-ideal” fit in terms of software workflows fitting hardware as compared to what can be configured on the Windows side of the market.

Key Conclusions

  1.  Apple’s new Mac Pro finally delivers the necessary workstation class graphics at a range well suited to the diversity of its pro desktop users, particularly befitting to both 3D/VFX and Film professionals who need dual, high-end or dual, ultra high-end GPU cards. As can be seen in the “GPU per Industry” chart (image 16) real Mac pro customers have workflows just as diverse as Windows uses and require a respectable range of options. Apple needs to address range span weaknesses by targeting the iMac line that is used by many professionals, particularly in the Architecture, Engineering and Science & Medicine markets. (go to page 4 for chart 16 in separate tab here)
  2. Apple needs to engineer a dual-CPU option for the Mac Pro. The evidence is clear in our data, Mac professionals, particularly in the 3D/VFX and Film industries, desire and need systems with 24 to 32 or more cores. You cannot build systems to compete with Windows workstation makers if you don’t put in dual CPU capabilities. As the “CPU per Industry” chart (image 17) shows, nearly 50 percent wish or need 24 cores or more in their next Mac pro desktop. (go to page 4 for chart 17 in separate tab here)
  3. The iMac computer line is increasingly seen as the most cost effective for the bulk of staff in the Architecture industry. This is a big change from several years ago when the iMac was largely considered way too consumer (under powered).
  4. Multi-monitors seem to be increasingly important. Apple should do more research in this area and begin producing more Cinema Displays at more reasonable cost points. A display that matches the look and size of the iMac would allow the vast number of architects who want to work with 2 displays to have an ideal setup.
  5. Apple should develop the ability for the GPU on the Mac Pro to be upgraded. Such engineering effort could then allow third-party GPU makers to make options, such as a CUDA capable GPU from Nvidia or an OEM licensee.

For more information about our Mac pro desktop workstation survey and the data, and for obtaining the fuller PDF report in the near future, please feel free to email in at: info@architosh.com. Please comment below with your thoughts and concerns and please also share this report with those who you think will find it interesting. Thanks!

Postscript: Mac Workstation Survey for Mac Pros Remains Open [added 2 Feb 2015]

Although this 2014 study has concluded our actual survey remains open and we encourage readers to consider taking it so we can continue to compile useful data to share with the market. It remains our utmost concern that Apple understands the diversity and complexity of its pro users and finds the best paths towards efficiently serving the pro markets with flexible hardware options from effectively two key desktop lines.

Jump here to take the survey and contribute to the cause. Thanks!

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