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Architosh talks to Siemens about NX 6 for the Mac

One of the most impressive developments to hit the Mac community in recent years has been the strong upward growth in Mac market share. Recently Apple announced at its World Wide Developer Conference this past June that in the past two years they have tripled their installed base of Macs, now upwards of 70 million.

This has meant that the demand for more native Mac software has also grown several fold and that there is now very strong and growing demand for engineering and CAD software on the platform, complimenting the already existent and strong penetration of native design software for Apple’s easy-to-use UNIX-based system.

Within this context we have seen German industrial giant Siemens and its PLM software division fully commit resources to, and produce, a shipping version of its market-leading PLM software NX 6 for Mac OS X. In this interview Architosh talks to Paul Brown, senior director of NX Marketing for Siemens PLM Software and Jim Phelan, Director of PLM Media Relations. We start this discussion with a description of what constitutes NX 6 for the Mac.

The Interview

Anthony Frausto-Robledo (AFR): Paul thanks for taking the time to speak to me this morning. Let’s start from the beginning. What encompasses the NX 6 version for the Mac?

Paul Brown (PB): Sure. NX 6 for Mac includes all the core CAD/CAM technology found in the other platform versions, this means all the modeling and drafting functionality and all the assembly and collaboration tools…and of course the Synchronous Technology that has been much praised by the industry.

Jim Phelan (JP): Anthony are you familiar with our Synchronous Technology in NX?

AFR: Yes, I’ve written about it and have a general understanding. I understand it is a way to mix both parametric, history-based modeling functionality with aspects of explicit modeling. Is that correct?

PB: Yes, more or less.

AFR: I’d like to talk about that in more detail in a second. So the Mac version is more or less identical to the other platforms for NX?

PB: Almost. The Mac version doesn’t have the CAE (computer-aided engineering) items, the finite element analysis and engineering tools.

AF: Is that because the demand isn’t there for the most part or a porting issue?

PB: The demand. The analysis types are interested in other platforms like Linux for instance, where they can batch off big stuff to cost-effective Linux clusters where they can focus on pure performance while doing their engineering analyses.

AFR: So the demand was really there only on the “product design” side, is that correct?

PB: NX has a history of serving multiple platforms and so it made sense for us to add the Mac. There is growing interest among our customers with the Mac, especially on the front-end design side. And we are already seeing interest in the Macs being utilized for engineering workstations. In fact, last week we heard news of the first new large commercial deployment on the Mac. We found that delightful because it expands our base.

01 - Siemens PLM's NX 6 Mac shown here running on one of Apple's latest laptops.

AFR: Right, I assume besides making your existing customers happy a big point of the Mac version is to expand your base and increase revenue?

PB: That is right. We don’t make any more money when our customers simply move to other hardware.

AFR: And speaking of revenue, what does a single NX license cost?

PB: Ranges start around 7,500.USD per seat. Things go up from there based on adding modules. Costs vary with modules and deployment size (number of seats).

AF: And what are some of the modules that can be added to the Mac version of NX?

PB: Nearly all the modules can be added except for the CAE (computer-aided engineering) modules. Some of the modules include the PTS, which is the Product Template Studio, CheckMate, and various other modules that add things like mark-up, etc cetera.

AFR: Do people use NX for industrial design or do they use other tools like AliasStudio and solidThinking and then bring that data into NX for final work?

PB: It depends on the end state of design. For some industrial designers the end state is a pretty rendered picture that comes out of their workflow and design tool. If that is the case, that is best served in another package. We are stronger when the end state is moving that industrial designed object straight into mechanical design and engineering. In this way ID (industrial design) and Mechanical engineering can be tied in much closer.

AFR: What percentage of pure industrial design happens inside NX?

PB: Quite a lot. We have many larger customers who do all their industrial design exclusively within NX. NX has all the tools they need and they can do the beautiful renderings as well.

AF: I know for instance that SolidWorks licensed Luxology’s modo technology to add powerful state-of-the-art rendering and animation technology into the SolidWorks workflow. How do you accomplish your photo-realistic rendering technology?

PB: We have a partner in LightWork Design and use their LightWorks rendering engine.

AFR: I have noticed that even in this latest version of NX 6 for Mac you are using a standard X11 interface on Mac OS X. Why are you not using a native Aqua Mac OS X UI?

PB: This is certainly not a true Cocoa app and we don’t use the native user interface technology because doing so would have amounted to a massive reworking of the code.

Jim Phelan (JP): Plus, we have to factor in our product in larger heterogenous environments and our customers don’t want to have different UI’s across a range of platforms. So we use the common user interface for all platforms.

AFR: So this means even Windows gets the common interface?

PB: Yes. We have lots of large customers and in large heterogeneous environements it is important for the IT staff supporting NX to be able to know and work with one common user interface.

AFR: And TeamCenter utilizes the Apple Safari web browser, correct?

PB: Yes, not all of TeamCenter runs on the Mac but most of it.

AFR: You mentioned large customers several times. Can you tell me if you have any large customers who are utilizing the Mac version of NX 6 and can you mention any names?

Jim Phelan (JP): We had a total of 21 different companies that participated in the EAP (early adopter program) for the Mac OS X version of NX 6. Unfortunately, we are not able to share any of the names of these companies except for one of the smaller companies called Eggimann Design.

AFR: Okay, but of the other 20 companies, were these companies large and global companies?

JP: The vast majority of the companies in the EAP for NX 6 on the Mac were global companies and one of them was a Fortune 500 company.

02 - NX 6 on Mac OS X.

AFR: That’s exciting to hear. The Mac has penetrated enterprise-class engineering customers. Let’s go back now and touch on what Synchronous Technology is, because I know that is one very strong and important piece of the technology advantage in NX.

Paul Brown (PB): Right, what is Synchronous Technology? This is a great question because a lot in the press that has been written about Synchronous Technology has misunderstood the story. So let’s start with what Synchronous Technology is not.

We believe history-based modeling is a key technology. Siemens is not turning its back on parametrics and history-based modeling because of Synchronous Technology.

Also, Synchronous Technology is not direct (explicit) modeling. It’s got aspect of direct modeling like dragging edges and stuff, but it also infers intelligence on the fly and can build intelligence later, unlike basic direct modeling tools.

AFR: Okay, so what is your view of the problem with old-fashioned history-based parametrics?

PB: History-based parametrics is great but it has some hang-ups because it relies on everything being in sequence and in order. You can’t add certain intelligence later. You are more hamstrung with going back to earlier decisions. With Synchronous Technology we add in the flexibility you really want to be there with your common parametric-based design tools.

AFR: So you can build-in parametric intelligence at any time along the way, not just at the beginning and not just in linear order?

PB: That’s correct. Also, you can bring in other models from other programs like ProE or another PLM tool…and Synchronous Technology can still recognize things like tangency, symmetry rules and make edits and do key rebuilds.

AFR: But where does the explicit direct modeling come into play?

JP: With Synchronous Technology and NX 6 you have the ability of doing history-based parametric modeling or free form direct modeling at any time…and you don’t have to choose one or the other, you can use both.

PB: That’s right, we have a long and innovative history with advanced direct modeling going back to Unigraphics 12 with our direct editing modeling tools.

AFR: Sounds wonderful.

PB: We like to think so (laughs…)

AFR: I have just one more question and it deals with SolidEdge. Will Siemens bring that product to the Mac as well?

JP: Anthony we cannot comment on which products we have that might come to the Mac in the future or not.

AFR: I figured–but I had to ask. If you did would it be as easy as NX?

PB: No. NX has a neutral user-interface structure and is made to run on many platforms. That is one of its key strengths! SolidEdge is not in my division but what I do know is that it uses a lot of Microsoft components in its code, so it would be a bigger task.

AFR: Paul and Jim, thanks for talking to me about NX 6 on the Mac. You guys have wonderful technology and it is great see it on Apple’s platform and even more wonderful to hear of your customers’ use and interest in it running on Apple’s workstations.

PB and JP: You are welcome. Thank you.

Some Final Notes

This was one of our more interesting interviews and what we have learned is that the PLM industry’s most advanced PLM (product lifecycle management) application–a combination of design, modeling, MCAD and engineering and collaboration–is running beautifully on Apple’s latest Mac OS X platform utilizing an X11 UNIX interface structure. See the screen shots above to check out what that looks like and there are YouTube videos with NX 6 on Mac in action here.

We hope this article clarifies Siemens’ Synchronous Technology as well. AEC industry readers here on Architosh may be very intrigued by the notions of a combination of direct modeling (something architects do all the time) and history-based parametric modeling (something used far more often in MCAD fields). We will be following this closely as time goes by.

To learn more about Siemens PLM NX for Mac go here.

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