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	Comments on: Apple Leaving Intel on Macs by 2020—Impact on New Mac Pro	</title>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55596</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recognize the volume inherent in the iOS platform, but I also recognize that although many people may only need a small commuter car, there will always be the need for pickup trucks and larger - just as Steve Jobs is quoted saying in 2010 (http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4). Tim Cook makes some similar points as well (https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/).

Case in point: I&#039;ve watched as iWork features were eliminated as they combined the macOS and iOS versions and am reminded of the office I worked in that tried to use AutoCAD and MicroStation interchangeably. Rather than using the particular features of one or the other as a benefit to a particular project, they tried to condense everything down to the lowest common denominator - features available in only one package were not used. At the time, MicroStation used 64 numbered layers, so we were not allowed to name layers (or use more) in AutoCAD. The power users for each platform were constantly frustrated.

iOS has come a long way and offers many advantages. However, my workflow involves an ergonomic keyboard, 3D mouse, and Logitech G13 gameboard for input; multiple screens; and there are still times I walk away from my Mac Pro workstation to let it crunch through a render or computation - despite its 3.24Ghz 12-core processors and dual GPUs.

Perhaps the ARM chips can support this level of work, but I&#039;m concerned that needs of power desktop users on one side vs. mobile users on the other would draw these chips in different directions. There are already issues with Apple&#039;s form factors (Macbook/iMac) dictating lesser performance to achieve smaller, slimmer packages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recognize the volume inherent in the iOS platform, but I also recognize that although many people may only need a small commuter car, there will always be the need for pickup trucks and larger &#8211; just as Steve Jobs is quoted saying in 2010 (<a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4</a>). Tim Cook makes some similar points as well (<a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/</a>).</p>
<p>Case in point: I&#8217;ve watched as iWork features were eliminated as they combined the macOS and iOS versions and am reminded of the office I worked in that tried to use AutoCAD and MicroStation interchangeably. Rather than using the particular features of one or the other as a benefit to a particular project, they tried to condense everything down to the lowest common denominator &#8211; features available in only one package were not used. At the time, MicroStation used 64 numbered layers, so we were not allowed to name layers (or use more) in AutoCAD. The power users for each platform were constantly frustrated.</p>
<p>iOS has come a long way and offers many advantages. However, my workflow involves an ergonomic keyboard, 3D mouse, and Logitech G13 gameboard for input; multiple screens; and there are still times I walk away from my Mac Pro workstation to let it crunch through a render or computation &#8211; despite its 3.24Ghz 12-core processors and dual GPUs.</p>
<p>Perhaps the ARM chips can support this level of work, but I&#8217;m concerned that needs of power desktop users on one side vs. mobile users on the other would draw these chips in different directions. There are already issues with Apple&#8217;s form factors (Macbook/iMac) dictating lesser performance to achieve smaller, slimmer packages.</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-57205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recognize the volume inherent in the iOS platform, but I also recognize that although many people may only need a small commuter car, there will always be the need for pickup trucks and larger - just as Steve Jobs is quoted saying in 2010 (http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4). Tim Cook makes some similar points as well (https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/).

Case in point: I&#039;ve watched as iWork features were eliminated as they combined the macOS and iOS versions and am reminded of the office I worked in that tried to use AutoCAD and MicroStation interchangeably. Rather than using the particular features of one or the other as a benefit to a particular project, they tried to condense everything down to the lowest common denominator - features available in only one package were not used. At the time, MicroStation used 64 numbered layers, so we were not allowed to name layers (or use more) in AutoCAD. The power users for each platform were constantly frustrated.

iOS has come a long way and offers many advantages. However, my workflow involves an ergonomic keyboard, 3D mouse, and Logitech G13 gameboard for input; multiple screens; and there are still times I walk away from my Mac Pro workstation to let it crunch through a render or computation - despite its 3.24Ghz 12-core processors and dual GPUs.

Perhaps the ARM chips can support this level of work, but I&#039;m concerned that needs of power desktop users on one side vs. mobile users on the other would draw these chips in different directions. There are already issues with Apple&#039;s form factors (Macbook/iMac) dictating lesser performance to achieve smaller, slimmer packages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recognize the volume inherent in the iOS platform, but I also recognize that although many people may only need a small commuter car, there will always be the need for pickup trucks and larger &#8211; just as Steve Jobs is quoted saying in 2010 (<a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4</a>). Tim Cook makes some similar points as well (<a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/</a>).</p>
<p>Case in point: I&#8217;ve watched as iWork features were eliminated as they combined the macOS and iOS versions and am reminded of the office I worked in that tried to use AutoCAD and MicroStation interchangeably. Rather than using the particular features of one or the other as a benefit to a particular project, they tried to condense everything down to the lowest common denominator &#8211; features available in only one package were not used. At the time, MicroStation used 64 numbered layers, so we were not allowed to name layers (or use more) in AutoCAD. The power users for each platform were constantly frustrated.</p>
<p>iOS has come a long way and offers many advantages. However, my workflow involves an ergonomic keyboard, 3D mouse, and Logitech G13 gameboard for input; multiple screens; and there are still times I walk away from my Mac Pro workstation to let it crunch through a render or computation &#8211; despite its 3.24Ghz 12-core processors and dual GPUs.</p>
<p>Perhaps the ARM chips can support this level of work, but I&#8217;m concerned that needs of power desktop users on one side vs. mobile users on the other would draw these chips in different directions. There are already issues with Apple&#8217;s form factors (Macbook/iMac) dictating lesser performance to achieve smaller, slimmer packages.</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-60796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recognize the volume inherent in the iOS platform, but I also recognize that although many people may only need a small commuter car, there will always be the need for pickup trucks and larger - just as Steve Jobs is quoted saying in 2010 (http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4). Tim Cook makes some similar points as well (https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/).

Case in point: I&#039;ve watched as iWork features were eliminated as they combined the macOS and iOS versions and am reminded of the office I worked in that tried to use AutoCAD and MicroStation interchangeably. Rather than using the particular features of one or the other as a benefit to a particular project, they tried to condense everything down to the lowest common denominator - features available in only one package were not used. At the time, MicroStation used 64 numbered layers, so we were not allowed to name layers (or use more) in AutoCAD. The power users for each platform were constantly frustrated.

iOS has come a long way and offers many advantages. However, my workflow involves an ergonomic keyboard, 3D mouse, and Logitech G13 gameboard for input; multiple screens; and there are still times I walk away from my Mac Pro workstation to let it crunch through a render or computation - despite its 3.24Ghz 12-core processors and dual GPUs.

Perhaps the ARM chips can support this level of work, but I&#039;m concerned that needs of power desktop users on one side vs. mobile users on the other would draw these chips in different directions. There are already issues with Apple&#039;s form factors (Macbook/iMac) dictating lesser performance to achieve smaller, slimmer packages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recognize the volume inherent in the iOS platform, but I also recognize that although many people may only need a small commuter car, there will always be the need for pickup trucks and larger &#8211; just as Steve Jobs is quoted saying in 2010 (<a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-quote-apple-computers-metaphor-2017-4</a>). Tim Cook makes some similar points as well (<a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.macrumors.com/2018/04/19/tim-cook-still-opposed-to-merging-mac-ipad/</a>).</p>
<p>Case in point: I&#8217;ve watched as iWork features were eliminated as they combined the macOS and iOS versions and am reminded of the office I worked in that tried to use AutoCAD and MicroStation interchangeably. Rather than using the particular features of one or the other as a benefit to a particular project, they tried to condense everything down to the lowest common denominator &#8211; features available in only one package were not used. At the time, MicroStation used 64 numbered layers, so we were not allowed to name layers (or use more) in AutoCAD. The power users for each platform were constantly frustrated.</p>
<p>iOS has come a long way and offers many advantages. However, my workflow involves an ergonomic keyboard, 3D mouse, and Logitech G13 gameboard for input; multiple screens; and there are still times I walk away from my Mac Pro workstation to let it crunch through a render or computation &#8211; despite its 3.24Ghz 12-core processors and dual GPUs.</p>
<p>Perhaps the ARM chips can support this level of work, but I&#8217;m concerned that needs of power desktop users on one side vs. mobile users on the other would draw these chips in different directions. There are already issues with Apple&#8217;s form factors (Macbook/iMac) dictating lesser performance to achieve smaller, slimmer packages.</p>
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		By: Anthony Frausto-Robledo		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55593</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Frausto-Robledo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evan,
It is clearly not a done deal and Bloomberg&#039;s report noted that things like this could be abandoned. The 2020 timeline would strongly suggest they are near or beyond the point of no return on this chip decision. Whether all Macs will move quickly to the new architecture or not is another aspect that speaks possibly to the 2019 Mac Pro. 

I have not be tracking Mac developer counts. Are the numbers really declining, where do you see evidence of that? My view from the MCAD industry is that macOS is growing, not declining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,<br />
It is clearly not a done deal and Bloomberg&#8217;s report noted that things like this could be abandoned. The 2020 timeline would strongly suggest they are near or beyond the point of no return on this chip decision. Whether all Macs will move quickly to the new architecture or not is another aspect that speaks possibly to the 2019 Mac Pro. </p>
<p>I have not be tracking Mac developer counts. Are the numbers really declining, where do you see evidence of that? My view from the MCAD industry is that macOS is growing, not declining.</p>
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		By: Anthony Frausto-Robledo		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-57201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Frausto-Robledo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evan,
It is clearly not a done deal and Bloomberg&#039;s report noted that things like this could be abandoned. The 2020 timeline would strongly suggest they are near or beyond the point of no return on this chip decision. Whether all Macs will move quickly to the new architecture or not is another aspect that speaks possibly to the 2019 Mac Pro. 

I have not be tracking Mac developer counts. Are the numbers really declining, where do you see evidence of that? My view from the MCAD industry is that macOS is growing, not declining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,<br />
It is clearly not a done deal and Bloomberg&#8217;s report noted that things like this could be abandoned. The 2020 timeline would strongly suggest they are near or beyond the point of no return on this chip decision. Whether all Macs will move quickly to the new architecture or not is another aspect that speaks possibly to the 2019 Mac Pro. </p>
<p>I have not be tracking Mac developer counts. Are the numbers really declining, where do you see evidence of that? My view from the MCAD industry is that macOS is growing, not declining.</p>
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		By: Evan Troxel		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Troxel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something else to consider here is that the number of developers on the Mac platform is dwindling compared to iOS. There are so many apps that have been abandoned or barely see updates. Initiatives like Marzipan and Kalamata will naturally bring developers back to the Mac. Of course there are many problems with changing chip architectures, but there are good things too. We&#039;ll see if it happens. The article title makes it sound like it&#039;s a done deal but I have reservations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else to consider here is that the number of developers on the Mac platform is dwindling compared to iOS. There are so many apps that have been abandoned or barely see updates. Initiatives like Marzipan and Kalamata will naturally bring developers back to the Mac. Of course there are many problems with changing chip architectures, but there are good things too. We&#8217;ll see if it happens. The article title makes it sound like it&#8217;s a done deal but I have reservations.</p>
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		By: Evan Troxel		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-57197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Troxel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something else to consider here is that the number of developers on the Mac platform is dwindling compared to iOS. There are so many apps that have been abandoned or barely see updates. Initiatives like Marzipan and Kalamata will naturally bring developers back to the Mac. Of course there are many problems with changing chip architectures, but there are good things too. We&#039;ll see if it happens. The article title makes it sound like it&#039;s a done deal but I have reservations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else to consider here is that the number of developers on the Mac platform is dwindling compared to iOS. There are so many apps that have been abandoned or barely see updates. Initiatives like Marzipan and Kalamata will naturally bring developers back to the Mac. Of course there are many problems with changing chip architectures, but there are good things too. We&#8217;ll see if it happens. The article title makes it sound like it&#8217;s a done deal but I have reservations.</p>
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		By: Anthony Frausto-Robledo		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55590</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Frausto-Robledo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 02:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas,
Something tells me this is going to be different. I also think edge compute will become incredibly important going forward, the many uses of AI in various industries and in the field. So performance again matters and Apple to be relevant in the AI world needs to catch up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,<br />
Something tells me this is going to be different. I also think edge compute will become incredibly important going forward, the many uses of AI in various industries and in the field. So performance again matters and Apple to be relevant in the AI world needs to catch up.</p>
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		By: Anthony Frausto-Robledo		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-57198</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Frausto-Robledo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas,
Something tells me this is going to be different. I also think edge compute will become incredibly important going forward, the many uses of AI in various industries and in the field. So performance again matters and Apple to be relevant in the AI world needs to catch up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,<br />
Something tells me this is going to be different. I also think edge compute will become incredibly important going forward, the many uses of AI in various industries and in the field. So performance again matters and Apple to be relevant in the AI world needs to catch up.</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55582</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did read the TechCrunch article and that they&#039;re talking about actual workflows is somewhat encouraging. There is that element of Apple telling users what they need - you don&#039;t need disk drives, don&#039;t need optical drives, etc. In a lot of cases they&#039;re just at the forefront of the curve, but then in other things they miss. Sorry, a laptop or an iMac just doesn&#039;t meet MY needs. At the very least I would have to tie it to a bunch of external hardware that I DO need instead of just being able to put it into my Mac Pro box.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read the TechCrunch article and that they&#8217;re talking about actual workflows is somewhat encouraging. There is that element of Apple telling users what they need &#8211; you don&#8217;t need disk drives, don&#8217;t need optical drives, etc. In a lot of cases they&#8217;re just at the forefront of the curve, but then in other things they miss. Sorry, a laptop or an iMac just doesn&#8217;t meet MY needs. At the very least I would have to tie it to a bunch of external hardware that I DO need instead of just being able to put it into my Mac Pro box.</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-57199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did read the TechCrunch article and that they&#039;re talking about actual workflows is somewhat encouraging. There is that element of Apple telling users what they need - you don&#039;t need disk drives, don&#039;t need optical drives, etc. In a lot of cases they&#039;re just at the forefront of the curve, but then in other things they miss. Sorry, a laptop or an iMac just doesn&#039;t meet MY needs. At the very least I would have to tie it to a bunch of external hardware that I DO need instead of just being able to put it into my Mac Pro box.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read the TechCrunch article and that they&#8217;re talking about actual workflows is somewhat encouraging. There is that element of Apple telling users what they need &#8211; you don&#8217;t need disk drives, don&#8217;t need optical drives, etc. In a lot of cases they&#8217;re just at the forefront of the curve, but then in other things they miss. Sorry, a laptop or an iMac just doesn&#8217;t meet MY needs. At the very least I would have to tie it to a bunch of external hardware that I DO need instead of just being able to put it into my Mac Pro box.</p>
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		By: Anthony Frausto, AIA (@architosh)		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55581</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Frausto, AIA (@architosh)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas,
These are all really excellent comments and points. Very interesting to hear about your 12-core 2010 Mac Pro hack that powers your workflow to this day. I think you and I have spoken about Apple&#039;s Mac Pro woes at depth before. I will share a couple of thoughts here that I think is important. 

Awhile back on Architosh when Apple announced their true commitment to a new Mac Pro, I mentioned the new machine as being useful also for emerging power-hungry applications like AI and machine learning. This was prescient on an accidental level; I think Apple wants to do a lot with data, machine learning and AI and they want lots of security and control in that domain. To control their security destiny going custom CPUs seems to offer advantages. 

Beyond the importance of AI and machine learning, and in particular its importance to Apple&#039;s third-party developer community, the modular Mac Pro folks like you and me are dreaming about must be performant within the rival Intel community. It must, ideally, out-perform Xeons and i9&#039;s. And an architecture transition must go at least equal or better than Rosetta. Have you read Tech Crunch&#039;s article here below? 

Apple&#039;s 2019 Mac Pro will be shaped by workflows? 
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,<br />
These are all really excellent comments and points. Very interesting to hear about your 12-core 2010 Mac Pro hack that powers your workflow to this day. I think you and I have spoken about Apple&#8217;s Mac Pro woes at depth before. I will share a couple of thoughts here that I think is important. </p>
<p>Awhile back on Architosh when Apple announced their true commitment to a new Mac Pro, I mentioned the new machine as being useful also for emerging power-hungry applications like AI and machine learning. This was prescient on an accidental level; I think Apple wants to do a lot with data, machine learning and AI and they want lots of security and control in that domain. To control their security destiny going custom CPUs seems to offer advantages. </p>
<p>Beyond the importance of AI and machine learning, and in particular its importance to Apple&#8217;s third-party developer community, the modular Mac Pro folks like you and me are dreaming about must be performant within the rival Intel community. It must, ideally, out-perform Xeons and i9&#8217;s. And an architecture transition must go at least equal or better than Rosetta. Have you read Tech Crunch&#8217;s article here below? </p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s 2019 Mac Pro will be shaped by workflows?<br />
<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/</a></p>
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		By: Anthony Frausto, AIA (@archito		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-60797</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Frausto, AIA (@archito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 15:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas,
These are all really excellent comments and points. Very interesting to hear about your 12-core 2010 Mac Pro hack that powers your workflow to this day. I think you and I have spoken about Apple&#039;s Mac Pro woes at depth before. I will share a couple of thoughts here that I think is important. 

Awhile back on Architosh when Apple announced their true commitment to a new Mac Pro, I mentioned the new machine as being useful also for emerging power-hungry applications like AI and machine learning. This was prescient on an accidental level; I think Apple wants to do a lot with data, machine learning and AI and they want lots of security and control in that domain. To control their security destiny going custom CPUs seems to offer advantages. 

Beyond the importance of AI and machine learning, and in particular its importance to Apple&#039;s third-party developer community, the modular Mac Pro folks like you and me are dreaming about must be performant within the rival Intel community. It must, ideally, out-perform Xeons and i9&#039;s. And an architecture transition must go at least equal or better than Rosetta. Have you read Tech Crunch&#039;s article here below? 

Apple&#039;s 2019 Mac Pro will be shaped by workflows? 
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,<br />
These are all really excellent comments and points. Very interesting to hear about your 12-core 2010 Mac Pro hack that powers your workflow to this day. I think you and I have spoken about Apple&#8217;s Mac Pro woes at depth before. I will share a couple of thoughts here that I think is important. </p>
<p>Awhile back on Architosh when Apple announced their true commitment to a new Mac Pro, I mentioned the new machine as being useful also for emerging power-hungry applications like AI and machine learning. This was prescient on an accidental level; I think Apple wants to do a lot with data, machine learning and AI and they want lots of security and control in that domain. To control their security destiny going custom CPUs seems to offer advantages. </p>
<p>Beyond the importance of AI and machine learning, and in particular its importance to Apple&#8217;s third-party developer community, the modular Mac Pro folks like you and me are dreaming about must be performant within the rival Intel community. It must, ideally, out-perform Xeons and i9&#8217;s. And an architecture transition must go at least equal or better than Rosetta. Have you read Tech Crunch&#8217;s article here below? </p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s 2019 Mac Pro will be shaped by workflows?<br />
<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/</a></p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-55580</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was unsure of the PowerPC to Intel switch - and there were some growing pains working with Rosetta not to mention some applications that were abandoned and never ported to Intel. But I have to admit that the move had its benefits. Although I&#039;m not an AutoCAD fan, would they have ever brought it to the PowerPC platform?

There has been various discussions of merging macOS and iOS for some time now. I can&#039;t say I&#039;m a fan of that kind of thinking. What I want out of a mobile phone or tablet is much different from what I want out of a desktop machine - much of the reason I&#039;m disappointed by Apple&#039;s lack of attention to the Mac Pro line. I&#039;m still using a 12-core 2010 Mac Pro &quot;Hackintosh&quot; with dual NVidia cards and an external secondary PSU to support VRay. Moving to ARM chips would obviously be a move in this direction. Will it leave the power users whose workflow does not &quot;fit&quot; on tablets and laptops with no options with Apple?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unsure of the PowerPC to Intel switch &#8211; and there were some growing pains working with Rosetta not to mention some applications that were abandoned and never ported to Intel. But I have to admit that the move had its benefits. Although I&#8217;m not an AutoCAD fan, would they have ever brought it to the PowerPC platform?</p>
<p>There has been various discussions of merging macOS and iOS for some time now. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a fan of that kind of thinking. What I want out of a mobile phone or tablet is much different from what I want out of a desktop machine &#8211; much of the reason I&#8217;m disappointed by Apple&#8217;s lack of attention to the Mac Pro line. I&#8217;m still using a 12-core 2010 Mac Pro &#8220;Hackintosh&#8221; with dual NVidia cards and an external secondary PSU to support VRay. Moving to ARM chips would obviously be a move in this direction. Will it leave the power users whose workflow does not &#8220;fit&#8221; on tablets and laptops with no options with Apple?</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://architosh.com/2018/04/apple-leaving-intel-on-macs-by-2020-impact-on-new-mac-pro/#comment-60799</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was unsure of the PowerPC to Intel switch - and there were some growing pains working with Rosetta not to mention some applications that were abandoned and never ported to Intel. But I have to admit that the move had its benefits. Although I&#039;m not an AutoCAD fan, would they have ever brought it to the PowerPC platform?

There has been various discussions of merging macOS and iOS for some time now. I can&#039;t say I&#039;m a fan of that kind of thinking. What I want out of a mobile phone or tablet is much different from what I want out of a desktop machine - much of the reason I&#039;m disappointed by Apple&#039;s lack of attention to the Mac Pro line. I&#039;m still using a 12-core 2010 Mac Pro &quot;Hackintosh&quot; with dual NVidia cards and an external secondary PSU to support VRay. Moving to ARM chips would obviously be a move in this direction. Will it leave the power users whose workflow does not &quot;fit&quot; on tablets and laptops with no options with Apple?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unsure of the PowerPC to Intel switch &#8211; and there were some growing pains working with Rosetta not to mention some applications that were abandoned and never ported to Intel. But I have to admit that the move had its benefits. Although I&#8217;m not an AutoCAD fan, would they have ever brought it to the PowerPC platform?</p>
<p>There has been various discussions of merging macOS and iOS for some time now. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a fan of that kind of thinking. What I want out of a mobile phone or tablet is much different from what I want out of a desktop machine &#8211; much of the reason I&#8217;m disappointed by Apple&#8217;s lack of attention to the Mac Pro line. I&#8217;m still using a 12-core 2010 Mac Pro &#8220;Hackintosh&#8221; with dual NVidia cards and an external secondary PSU to support VRay. Moving to ARM chips would obviously be a move in this direction. Will it leave the power users whose workflow does not &#8220;fit&#8221; on tablets and laptops with no options with Apple?</p>
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